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#1 West Texan

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Posted 07 March 2020 - 10:57 AM

Was curious if anyone pulls with a longer ball receiver to clear a lowered tailgate.
What would the effect be other than extending the difference between the tow vehicle and the trailer tongue.
Any ideas?

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Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:23 PM

Most hitch extenders will lower the rated towing capacity of the hitch ball, (stinger,) some as much as 50%, due to the added length of the extension itself, (i.e. increased lever arm.) With a big truck, it might not be a problem as long as you have a good beefy stinger, but for many smaller tow vehicles with lower towing/tongue weight capacities, it could translate into a big problem.

 

As a work-around to that problem, I use my standard stinger and installed a Jack-E-Up removable tongue jack kit. Once the weight is off the jack, a simple 1/3rd of a turn and it comes right out. Now I have plenty of room to drop the tailgate without having to unhitch the trailer. When I get where I'm going, I just reinsert it and give it another 1/3rd of a turn, run it down and good to go. The Jack-E-Up kit utilizes your existing top crank tongue jack, which just bolts to the Jack-E-Up kit.

 

Larry Gamble at Little House Customs sells them with his modified lower stabilizer plate, (that doesn't come with the kit if you buy it somewhere else.)

Hit the link and scroll down about halfway to see it.

https://littlehousec.../store.html#gen

 

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Edited by Euphoria, 07 March 2020 - 02:27 PM.

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#3 West Texan

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Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:45 PM

I have a 2 5/16 solid stinger for my car trailers and bought it for being stronger to pull my 26 ft. enclosed car trailers. I also had the tongues of my car trailers extended to six feet to give better mobility of towing/turning/backing them. This also took a lot of bounce out of the trailers by altering the center of weight gravity front to rear.
Does the Jack-E-Up work with a powered jack? I have seen them, but never persued the idea.
I only need two inches to meet my needs.

Edited by West Texan, 07 March 2020 - 02:46 PM.


#4 Euphoria

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Posted 07 March 2020 - 03:22 PM

Does the Jack-E-Up work with a powered jack? I have seen them, but never pursued the idea.
I only need two inches to meet my needs.

I don't have an electric jack, but if it uses the same "3 bolt" triangular mount as the standard hand crank jack does, it should work in the same manner. The only thing I can think of would be the need for a removable, (detachable,) plug on the jacks power leads in order to be able to fully remove it from the "A" frame.


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#5 West Texan

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Posted 07 March 2020 - 05:41 PM

Does the Jack-E-Up work with a powered jack? I have seen them, but never pursued the idea.
I only need two inches to meet my needs.

I don't have an electric jack, but if it uses the same "3 bolt" triangular mount as the standard hand crank jack does, it should work in the same manner. The only thing I can think of would be the need for a removable, (detachable,) plug on the jacks power leads in order to be able to fully remove it from the "A" frame.

I already have the plugs for the power cables. Reckon that I need to call them Monday and see if it works with a power jack.

#6 West Texan

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Posted 07 March 2020 - 06:08 PM

Update:
Just went outside and checked out my jack plate. It is three bolts, but it is a round plate and not a triangle or three point plate. It wont work, unless there is an adapter made for it (invention idea? LOL).
Edit to the edit:
Been researching online and found out they make one for a round jack base (crank or electric). It is basically the same except for nuts that are improvised as spacers and the E-Jack part goes on from the bottom, instead of the top like on the triangular E-Jack plate. A third ground wire has to be added so as to ground the electric jack version.
Now we know how to do it.

Edited by West Texan, 07 March 2020 - 07:53 PM.

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#7 kanoer54

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 07:13 AM

We have a 2015 Ford F-150 with full tow package.  We used for many years a WDH only for the added length so the tailgate can fully lower.  We forgot the WHD one time on our way to pick up our SD so picked up a new stinger long enough to allow the tailgate to drop.   Now we use it all the time to save the weight.  We noticed no difference in towing.

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 07:26 AM

Kanoer54,
Thanks. That was what I was wondering.
If a longer stinger could be used and if it effected anything as in a bounce between tow vehicle and trailer (I call it worming.) as you were going up and down a bunch of little hills and dips.
Is it a solid stinger or like the common tubing stinger?
I have thought about the Jack-E-Up, but I hate having the electric jack lying in the back of the bed and bouncing around or that I might put it on the ground and forget it (Could happen! LOL).
The longer stinger would be my first choice, if it does not alter the pulling but very little.

#9 kanoer54

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Posted 09 March 2020 - 05:25 AM

West Texan, 

It is a Class 3 hollow tube stinger from E-trailer.  It is 13-1/4 inches from the center of the 2 inch ball to the center of the hole where the pin locks the stinger in the receiver.  This gives us about 3/4 inch clearance for the tailgate to clear.  Every tailgate is different so you may want to measure. There is no noticeable bounce or anything different on our truck.  One added benefit is when backing in to tight campsites, the couple inches in stinger length gives you a little bit more room for the tight corners.

 

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Posted 09 March 2020 - 06:21 AM

Thanks.