Do the Liberty and independence have the same kitchen, refrigerator cabinet, bathroom as the patriot? I know the patriot is shorter and has a different refrigerator. Does casita use the same molds to make them?
markyv, by the date on your post, i'm sure you got your question answered, but here goes. the patriot deluxe is EXACTLY the same trailer as the 16ft SD, EXCEPT it doesn't have the small side dinette/seats. they split the galley and fill that area instead with an upper storage area, vent a line, 2 burner stove, sink, fuse box, furnace, if you have one and storage area under stove for power cord and miscellaneous items. the top storage, microwave, smaller fridge, floor storage is just to the left of the door as you step inside. not having the side dinette and with the galley split is what makes the patriot length 13ft instead of the 16ft SD. other than that, the 2 trailers are identical, same tanks, fresh,gray,black, same bathroom, shower, toilet, same shorter closet with same friedrich ac underneath, same curved airplane door without screen. dry weight of the 13ft PD is 300lbs less than the 16ft SD.
the factory told me they assemble the 13 and 16ft trailers in the same area. the 17ft casita is a very different animal, and it has it's own area of assembly.
How can a 13 ft Patriot Deluxe be exactly like a 16ft Spirit Deluxe when the Spirit Deluxe does not have the split kitchen? That is the stove, fridge, sink are all on the curb side. Whereas in the Patriot, Liberty and Independence the fridge is on the curb side and the sink and stove are on the driver side of the camper.
I guess it depends upon how you look at it. To me a PD is a Liberty with the double bed in the back instead of the option to have a king.
the 13 PD and 16 SD are the same trailer because the PD does not have the side dinette which seats 2 and can be converted to a single bed. because the PD doesn't have the side table, they split the galley and put stove/sink in that space. the 13 PD bed is also slightly smaller, 46 by 76, as compared to the SD bed 54 by 76. the 16ft LD has 2 smaller tables which will make the king bed. both 13 PD and 16 SD have one large table which will make their double beds. the table situation might matter to some potential buyers but not matter to others.
when i considered all models, the salesperson compared the 13 PD and 16 SD and told me to consider whether i needed the side dinette/twin bed. i don't, so that helped me make my decision to seek out the 13 PD. he showed me all the comps on both 13 PD and 16 SD and pointed out that they were identical, except for bed dimensions. same ac,holding, fresh water tanks, black water, fridge, airplane door, etc. we never discussed the 16 LD because i wasn't interested in a king bed.
the 13 and 16 ft models are all assembled in the same area of the factory. the 17ft trailers have their own section of the factory for their assembly and they are vastly different in many ways.
Edited by clairemr1, 28 March 2016 - 04:02 AM.